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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 10:52 am    Titlul subiectului:

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Well, I took a quick look at those links and I can't say that I'm not too happy with what I saw. U have a long and pretty complicated story here, a bit hard to follow in all the details. But one thing is kinda anoying. Like u put the whole country in one boat coz some justice failures. Now, I wonder how it could look if I will do the same with my past problems with the german justice and birocracy sistem. Like making a website about this, writing to the german PM, to the UE council and so on and askin if they worth to b in UE.

More than that, several years ago, I had a heavy dispute with the canadians since they refused me a visa to go in Canada and visit my brother who lives there. The reason then was smth like.. u r too young and not have any guarantee that u will not abuse our emigration law. Now, walking on your path, I should bring up a website about this, write to the whole canadian goverment, including Mr. Blair and the queen and screaming all around the world that the canadians have a sick jusitice and goverment.

So, what I have to say is, why u think and belive that u as an UK citizen can have more right to a fair justice than we do with foreign justice, or even with our justice. Why do u think that these issues can only happen in Romania and nowhere else?

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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 1:02 pm    Titlul subiectului: Furt de proprietate

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I don't know what page you refer to, or if you understood its meaning, as the point remains clouded for you, I will try to illuminate.
Justice is that quality the instinct and soul yearns for, Every living thing has the awareness of this just like the elephant remembers receiving a benefit or detriment. You may not have the experience in your frame of a serious detriment. One day you will, as life is too long without it, and man is the measure of all things, so you cannot know happiness truly, unless you are familiar with pain. When you have such an experience you will feel the same as every other living entity on this planet, and the notion of injustice - want of equity - will be either strong or weak depending on your sense of the degree of injustice. In this case the loss of a mother and simultaneous theft of an inheritance left a young girl suicidal. My presence gave the criminal a moment of opportunism to plunder what was not his, I saved a precious wonderful life and found immeasurable happiness as a result. Back in 1965 NO PERSON was allowed to marry and emigrate, it was unthought of, and we had to get permission, both being followed by security in each country. Can you imagine what that is like when two continents separate you from a loved on? Our case of marriage, my near death, and so on, was unique for people at that time. Because of people like me, with determination and the understanding of mechanisms leading to a viable and desirable teleologies other people like perhaps you, have a better life. Its a debt I pay to my father who fought in the last war for such freedoms, and I pass on for the next generation to enjoy more such freedoms. The planet is in decline, and human detritus is a major factor in the process, where there is injustice someone with moral courage has to say NO, its that simple! Every person that tolerates injustice, or fails to expose it, helps build a world where such things are pervasive. I will not do that, it's also that simple! I hope this answers the question, of principle, rather than practice.
Thank you for your comments.
Tony Winter.
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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 1:37 pm    Titlul subiectului: Furt de proprietate

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I have tried to reply to the last question several times, but the page sent is not coming up. I wonder why?
I may try again later.
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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 2:04 pm    Titlul subiectului:

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Tony, is not as simple as that. U have this sad story, u feel a heavy pain inside u and the feeling of injustice is very strong. But that's not mean that u have the right to say that ur r the only one in the world who feels that. I don't like to say this in public, but I had my hard time too. My father emigrated in Germany in the comunist era and he died there. Except the fact that my whole childhood was lost in a very strong dictatorial regim, my father stats was a very painfull issue for me under the comunist regim.

Having a relative outside the damn border was kinda a marker over ur head and ur rights was resumed to nothing. U can say that is was just smth similar to the jewish stats in the nazi era. To bring me out of this hell, he paid to the comunist regim about 8.000 german mark, but the money was stollen by some offcials from the goverment and we can't did nothing to do about it. More than that, I was sent in the army, that's mean a work camp what was in reallity a prison. It's a very long and painfull story. Too long to explain just by typing.

Anyway, he died in Germany and after we escaped from the terror regim, I wanted to go and put a flower on his grave. But no, being a romanian and ex comunist country citizen, the damn german goverment cut my right to visit his grave. So, I forced the german border and entered illegaly in Germany. And here begins another long and very painfull story. I had to deal with that damn stupid german justice and birocracy and of course, I had no chance against them. Now, even if it's a long time since this happened, still my heart is full of anger and hate when I remember those moments. Beside that, smth similar was with the canadians.

So, injustice, opresion has no borders. Just take a look at the damn americand and how they civil right is cutted day by day, all in the name of security. Security what was broken by their idiot goverment, not by the citizens. Almost the same in UK. So, what I'm saying is that u must cut off the nation from ur statements. Coz not we as citizens did the unjustice. In my case too, I'm not angry on the german nation, but on their stupid laws and justice system. That's all. In rest, I agree wit u.

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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 3:20 pm    Titlul subiectului: Furt de proprietate

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Dear Magnum, how kind to take the time and discern. There are a few misconceptions about me, and to do you the best justice in a cogent reply, I will write back a little later today as I have some thing pressing on me, eg, the company involved in my dispute with the British company Amtrak has asked my permssion to use the argument I used to defeat the privity rule 1861 in the UK, which has been a major problem for 140 years here causing considerable injustice. A radical approach was needed, and since I am not a profeesional lawyer, insights from philosophy gave me the edge because of my backgroun in Logic. There is so much fallacious reasoning around, I wonder how the human race will survive with agenda driven thinking, that sets aside the purity of thought from our worlds best writers.
Please bear with me a while, I will be faithful in response to your reply, for which I thank you.
kind regards. TOny
PS I was not sure why I had to re-post my previous mssages, and percieved that these pages are monitored, sensing a force of reaction possibly cutting of the flow. If free speach is allowed then it shall be tested a little here. If I am cut off, I shall continue on my own website.
This is something I have been observing throughout. I have built over 20,000 computers in my time, and sold to the largest UK companies. I know enough about computer technology to well distinguish between the mechanisms of technical problems and human intervention.
Best regards.
Tony
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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 3:40 pm    Titlul subiectului:

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Relax Tony, nobody will cut u off, unless u wil not break the common sense and forum rules. Now, don't ask me to translate it coz I really don't have time for this.. but so far, we r on the right track. And these rules r common for any forums worldwide, nothin' special.

One thing tho'.. if we will deviate too much from the main theme, expect that discussion can b moved to the chit-chat section of this forum since this section is only for discussion about the city hall and local authorities.

L8r

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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 3:48 pm    Titlul subiectului: Re: Furt de proprietate

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Anthony a scris:

I have tried to reply to the last question several times, but the page sent is not coming up. I wonder why?
I may try again later.


Every time you have tried to reply, your page was posted.
The result? You have posted three times the same message.
I have deleted two of them. The third is still there!

Anthony a scris:

PS I was not sure why I had to re-post my previous mssages, and percieved that these pages are monitored, sensing a force of reaction possibly cutting of the flow. If free speach is allowed then it shall be tested a little here. If I am cut off, I shall continue on my own website.
This is something I have been observing throughout. I have built over 20,000 computers in my time, and sold to the largest UK companies. I know enough about computer technology to well distinguish between the mechanisms of technical problems and human intervention.
Best regards.
Tony


Is this a joke?

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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 4:26 pm    Titlul subiectului:

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yupp, the cosmic joke.

Anthony, with honest regards, but I think no one is deleting or doing anything with your posts. Would it be a human intervention you wouldn't have any post on this forum.

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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 5:39 pm    Titlul subiectului: Furt de proprietate

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Very astute, BUT I will show you human intervention of a very special kind, OMMISIONS that are wilful relied on as a cloak for non-culpability. I trust you all know precisely what that is, if not then a Philosophy degree would be desirable among others. I have irrefragible evidence that leaves unquivocal conclusions of willful negligence. It will be on my web site soon, and it has been seen by the three EU commissioners, as well as some member state MEP's. I don't suffer from halluciatory perception as many would like to believe, when I say something, I usually back it up with real evidence not innuendo. Please be patient. I see none of you are familiar with the days when everyone talked in whispers in case someone was nearby. I have been followed by men in terrible leather coats wearing dark glasses, and no mistake. When similar things hapened to me in the UK, I had a cameral in the car and it was ready to be shown at the court hearing with a case of police perjury. Of course the case was withdrawn, and compensation paid.
Yours very amused, but sufficiently re-assureed that the clouds are clearing. With kindest regards.
Tony
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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 5:45 pm    Titlul subiectului: Furt de proprietate

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Great News, I rejoice at.
A door is opening, we don't know where, or what it leads to, but "time unfolds what plighted cunning hides"
A truly great day, my best wishes to all the Romanian people with truth and sincerity in their hearts.

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Horns blare, traffic is gridlocked in the hot sunshine, and pedestrians scamper for the relative safety of the kerb, as a line of cars shoots away from the traffic lights - only to screech to a halt further on, bumper to bumper.
It is a typical May afternoon in Bucharest - but with a difference.
One word is on everyone's lips, in every headline, on every TV and radio programme - "the report".
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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 7:52 pm    Titlul subiectului: Furt de proprietate

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Gentlemen, This is an attempt to reply to several postings in one, Magnum, ZVrk, and Heron. --- Heron first perhaps with a little joke!
You say -- “Anthony, with honest regards, but I think no one is deleting or doing anything with your posts.” and ZVrk says ---” I have deleted two of them. The third is still there!” Which you should have seen. Now do you see the obvious contradiction? I'll say no more. These kinds of statements, especially by people in authority where there are consequences detrimental to others are what I find egregiously invidious. It's all ok with general day to day chat, but when detrimental consequences flow that is where I am interested to focus.
Next ZVk. I wonder how far one can go, the trouble is, in western societies we suffer from bureaucracy, fallacious reasoning, sophistry and semantic manipulation on a scale whose vastidity is planet wide and alarming. Its really wonderful to be able to even speak to you, I expected the controlling mind, if it IS YOU, to be more distant, and obscured. When it comes to communicating with people in authority, there is insufficient space here to treat the problem, that will all be stated on my website.
Coming to Magnum, I regret to say that there is an assumption that is inaccurate. I do not feel the pain,it is not mine. I have watched the psychological individuation process (Jung) of my wife this past forty years, being inhibited by the injuries sustained during the period of her mother's death, my being close to death when it was all she had in the world, while a particular member of her family plundered in rapine fashion her subsistence that was the substrate of her 'raison de'tre' she had right to, under any ideology.
It was not until many years had passed that she began to get over the damage, and we were now both busy bringing up our son, who you will see on our website section Music. He was first at St Paul's Cathedral London, and Harrow Music both paying his fees as a scholar. I am responsible for his first fifteen years of life, after which he began to control his own destiny. Having completed that task, I began to take stock of how, as a businessman, running my own successful business, I was taken advantage of by general abusers in every walk of life through any means. Mostly due to ENVY, and a desire to separate a couple who were and remain deeply in love. They tried it in our university days together. The entire class of students went as a body to the tutor and said the question had to be framed wrongly, (on the ontological and teleological arguments for the existence of a God) and the tutor said “ Sorry the question was correct, there was one person that understood it”.
Our values changed, I for one was not prepared to have my intelligence insulted any more, and where there was a legal remedy I sought it, and in every legal case I prevailed, primarily because I was,not interested in the money. I have reached that age where it is not important, what is more importance is life's experiences and learning. Coupled with the dismay in seeing others abused, in the manner I my wife was abused. I resolved it had to stop, and since that decision, while many have tried, they all failed because my focus was truth, not detracted from by money, and the principle at the heart of the argument. Most people want to just win at any cost, no matter the destruction created upon others. I am an academic, If I am wrong I will freely admit it immediately, I have no time to waste in hiding a fault, I don't, like many, lack the moral courage. People in authority confuse this principle with a notion that an admission incurs liability and cannot admit faults, yet that was a basic principle at the heart of the Communist society when I met it, self criticism. I and my wife prefer the to know ourselves better, and achieve that by way of discernment to Shakespeare's argument in Twelfth Night where this process is assisted by understand what is at the heart of
“the better for my foes and the worse for my
friends.
DUKE. Just the contrary: the better for thy friends.
CLOWN. No, sir, the worse.
DUKE. How can that be?
CLOWN. Marry, sir, they praise me and make an ass of me. Now my
foes tell me plainly I am an ass; so that by my foes, sir, I
profit in the knowledge of myself, and by my friends I am abused;”
Thus our marriage has been one of friendly being 'foes' since the outset. Truth to each other made us better able to change to please.

A agree with you totally that injustice has no borders, every family has its woes, and when you look over my web site you must conclude ONLY that this complaint is very even handed. Not specifically concerning Romania, its just some individuals just the same as in every country.
I have fought injustice in the UK, on many occasions, the one with a thief in the family and the petty “Th' oppressor's wrong, the proud man's contumely,
The pangs of despis'd love, the law's delay,
The insolence of office,
happens to be the dispute of the moment, there should not be any reason to see it otherwise, except that you must bear in mind, the rules of engagement in this area unlike those in normal courtroom precisely because when my wife left Romania, she wasn't allowed any documentation, NOT even her birth certificate. Do you have one, is it normal for you t have one, why should she have to pay 80 lb for a power of attorney to get one. This is not her fault, but the responsibilities of the previous regime, and this one, if it wishes to redress former wrongs needs to understand the requirement, as I state in my last court hearing in the UK, of the flexibilities in the law's rules otherwise continued injustice occurs. This was never about the state, it is about a family member who was criminal, the state simply didn't help, officials wilfully hindered the process. Why should it be any skin of anybodies nose (as we say here) for such a simple case of family theft to be investigated. The court knows it's not about the money, we said we never wanted to export it, while Romania understandably needed and needs foreign currency. The money won from the last case under Pres. Ceaucescu, with his help, simply stayed in the account and diminished in value with inflation so it is now worth no more than a pound of meat, whereas in 1965 it was enough to buy a single room apartment.

What is really the problem is simply this, in short, and to conclude so you have gotten to know me better.

The present family members, one in Sweden, one in Canada, and the recipient in Timisoara, absolutely rely on the widespread, and changing, culture of omissions, and no paperwork from the past, hence the reason for my focus on the culpable acts that FLOW from precisely omissions carried out wifully.
Certain people in authority appear to be afraid that this is an attack on the system and people as a whole, a major fallacy of thinking, and misjudgment. Were it in the UK my approach would be identical.
So these people have my wife'sw property, and sit still laughing at how we are going to prove it. Well I can, just get them into a courtroom under perjury and I think I have the questions they cannot answer. In each case I prevailed in, the defendant lost their case usually with one question well aimed, and governed by the laws of thought, they were in a contradiction so fast they couldn't think. That is why, if it comes to a case the rules are truth first, superior to fallacious proof under the guise of 'supperssio veri' & suggestio falsi', Statements under perjury laws, and the first question might be, why the defendant has NEVER acknowledged
letetrs, always retu4ning them as 'not here' and the court never having complied with my four essential pre-requisite for a truthful hearing, 'discovery of papers' my 'ex parte' request for seizure of papers after the death of the uncle. WHY, no don't move on WHY must be answered first, and under the laws of perjury, I have dozens of such questions whose answer are going to be extremely difficult to answer without lividity in the facial expressions & why no one is prepared to have this looked at transparently, because those questions include officials who could not continue a telephone conversation from what my recording appears to be fear.
I apologise for flowing digressions, but have tried in my own way to answer all. If I could meet the same in the officials I will be satisfied, but I don't expect it.
In conclusion great day for Romania, and all the wonderful people there, of my acquaintance.
Apologies for typos and errors, E & O I.
Kind regards.
TOny
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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 9:09 pm    Titlul subiectului: Re: Furt de proprietate

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Anthony, please allow me to “translate” my message: “I have deleted two of three identical messages posted by mistake, due to a system error. The third is still there!”.

Anthony a scris:

Its really wonderful to be able to even speak to you, I expected the controlling mind, if it IS YOU, to be more distant, and obscured. When it comes to communicating with people in authority, ...


Laughing O floare

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Just one more question.. can we move ur topic on the chit-chat section and continue the discution? If not, I will stop right here.

And one more thing.. can u pls ask ur wife to write just a few words in romanian here?

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MesajTrimis: 17/Mai/2006, 10:09 pm    Titlul subiectului: Furt de proprietate

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Buna seara Magnum,
Sint Timisoreana, venita la londra prin casatorie, D-Voastra, va rog frumos sinteti Romin?
Sinteti Timisoarean? Cu multumir Monica Winter.
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